The next president of the United States

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Who is going to be the Democratic candidate for President?

Obama
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54%
Clinton
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38%
Edwards
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8%
 
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The next president of the United States

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The Latest polls indicate that Obama, Clinton, and Edwards are neck and neck in Iowa. Polls show Obama and Clinton are neck and neck in New Hampshire. Iowa's caucus is Jan. 3 and it's fast approaching. New Hampshire's primary is Jan. 8.

Analysts say that every candidate who has won both the first two states has gone on to be nominated by their party. That makes victory in Iowa and New Hampshire crucial to the Democratic candidates.

As for the Republicans, Huckabee holds a commanding lead over Romney in Iowa. And Romney is slightly ahead of McCain in New Hampshire. So the GOP race is up in the air.

The funny thing is that Clinton and Edwards both accept special interest money while Obama fundraises from individuals. Obama wants to make campaign finance reform, while Clinton and Edwards haven't mentioned the issue because their bankrolls are filled with dirty money from huge corporations.

Clinton and Edwards have recently launched massive ad campaigns in Iowa with the financing they've received from corporations. Obama doesn't have that kind of money, but he has raised a lot and he needs a victory in Iowa to win in New Hampshire.

I'm kinda sitting on the edge of my seat awaiting Jan. 3 to find out who it's going to be.

God I hope Hillary doesn't win.
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This is a bit off subject, but interesting I thought.

My parents live in Iowa, so the candidates are around their town constantly. Barack was in Washington Iowa, where they live a few hours before I arrived last Friday and then Bill Clinton was 20 minutes away a few hours before I arrived also. I was kind of bummed. I wouldn't mind seeing some politicians. It would be interesting to have a brief experience with them. You know, ask Clinton about Area 51 and the Kennedy assassination!
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Post by poopstains »

How about none of the above. I'm not surprised those are your only options.
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I'm not surprised those are your only options.
Of course they are my only options. They ARE the only realistic options. What you think Joe Biden's gonna make a last minute comeback? He sucks! Bill Richardson doesn't have a hope either, although I could see him maybe being selected as vice president perhaps. But that's all the candidates. Obama, Clinton, or Edwards. And your job as a voter is to decide which one is less of a douchebag than the other ones.
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It would be interesting to have a brief experience with them. You know, ask Clinton about Area 51 and the Kennedy assassination!
You'll get your chance. Michigan's primary is coming up in a few weeks. They'll all spend some time in the southernly towns. Willing to drive an hour or two to see Bill Clinton?

But I just found out that there's some problems with michigans primary. there's a court case going on right now in regards to the date. so candidates might boycott it.
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Bill might tell you; but then he'd have to kill you. . . .
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Post by poopstains »

You know what scuzzbag I... owe you an (gulp) apology. I miss understood the thread, I didn't notice the caption above the poll, it appeared to me that you assumed (and probably still do) that is was a Dem that was going to be the next Pres. Of course with "The next president of the United States" and a list of Dems its easy to draw that conclusion.
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u think a republican can really get elected?
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scuzzbagcomics wrote:u think a republican can really get elected?
Yes, Hillary is to slimey and and resorts to dirty politics America is just to tired of that sh*t. That is what make Obama so good he is just a straight shooter and doesn't have that polotician feel, but his lack of experience an naive foriegn policy ideas won't fly. Edwards is just keeping his head above water only because he isn't playing the game so he is slipping by, but he is a hypocrit and a cry baby people know this.

The Republicans don't necassarilly have a strong field but to just count them out is foolish, remeber Kerry had started picking out wallpaper swatches for the oval office when Bush won in 04. So don't get to confident.
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If Hillary gets the nomination, and McCain gets it too, I'll vote for McCain.

But my problem is that John Edwards is a lying piece of shiit. I watched him on CSPAN today saying that he has never accepted any special interest money. He's a member of the Democratic Leadership Council along with Hillary Clinton. Their campaigns are corporate-funded. He's a liar and he's saying he'll change the country and that Obama is tough enough on the issues. But the truth is he's just saying the same stuff Obama is saying, just not as well. But he has way more ads out right now in IOWA and he's getting popular.

John Edwards and Hillary Clinton both supported the War in Iraq and they both supported the Patriot Act. They are both members of the Democratic Leadership Council and they are both corrupt.

Obama is a politician too, so he's not infallible. I don't trust any politician whole-heartedly. I can't seem to lose my anarchist roots.
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Since the iowa caucus is so crazy, its kinda tricky to figure out who's gonna win. biden, dodd, kucinich, and whoever else gets less than 15 will have to choose from the candidates who get more than 15, which are looking to be clinton, edwards, obama, and possibly richardson. I see Biden supporters going with Clinton or edwards. Kucinich supporters will go to edwards.

But see these second tier candidates are going to change the polls a lot. If Richardson gets more than 15 in the initial caucuses, then I bet a lot of the people who have to choose a new person will pick him just because he's an underdog. But hopefully they don't contribute to a landslide for Hillary.
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I'm writing myself in on the November Presidential ballot. Call it a protest vote. Give me a candidate I can actually consider voting for or I won't vote for any of them. I'll do my civic duty and vote, but I'm not voting for anybody who's currently running - at this point.
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Bassey, someone will come out of this list that will hopefully be better than Dole/Kemp.

Why the hell do I still see Kerry/Edwards stickers all over the damn place?
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I'm not looking for better than Dole/Kemp... I'm done with "better than..." I want someone I can actually cast a vote for because I think they'd be a good/maybe even great President. I want to vote for Reagan, Roosevelt (Teddy, not Franklin D.), Lincoln, Madison, Washington... Not everybody's going to agree with everything anybody does, but leaders lead... We haven't had a leader since Reagan. I don't see any of these chumps leading anybody anywhere either.
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bassjones wrote: I want to vote for Reagan, Roosevelt (Teddy, not Franklin D.), Lincoln, Madison, Washington... We haven't had a leader since Reagan.
While all these proved to be great leaders, they were considered by many in their time to be as incompetent as our leaders are considered today – especially Lincoln. Time has to prove whether a president's policies were good or not.

If you're old enough to remember Reagan, you know you were getting a mix bag with him. He gets the credit for winning the Cold War. He was also a good communicator to the American people. But he also let his cabinet run the country while he occasionally slept through meetings. He left the country with staggering debt, because he generated more tax revenue through cuts, but didn't control gubbamint spending. There's also the Iran/contra deal.

I'm not bringing all this up to praise or bash Reagan; but I believe in 50 years, he will remembered as one of the better presidents, like the bumblers of the past we consider great today.

Voting for yourself? Well, if I wrote your name in, I guess I would still be voting Libertarian. You don't have any dark skeletons in your past that I need to know about, do you? ;-)
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