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zenmandan · Post by **zenmandan** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:03 pm

I forgot to mention...perhaps it wasn't the recording that was bad, but in fact your band. Maybe you should take up Tim on his offer of attending Jam School. May do some good.

Or maybe it was the recording that sucked.

andrew spangler · Post by **andrew spangler** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:04 pm

oh..and my brother and his friend recorded at jam crib,and for the price,i thought it was okay,except for his friends voice :/. the guitar sounded okay in it all,and the drums were pretty clear,probably because he was smashing them. all in all it was good, implying that he was a terrible singer and im sure a good voice would sound okay on a recording also.

PMS Azrael · Post by **PMS Azrael** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:12 pm

zenmandan wrote:Keep in mind that the recordings are done there with a simple stereo mic or two, and you're recording your live sound. The settings that you or whomever put into the board for the room to sound good doesn't necessarily mean your recording is going to sound good. The sound in a live room can be vastly different from what you hear on the recording.

I'm just wondering why the volume changed so much. For example, the guitar part would get really quiet all of a sudden while the rest of the band's sound stayed the same. I understand that the overall sound is different, it's just the mixing that sounded really weird, and that was my question.
At this point:

PMS Azrael wrote:If everyone who does the recording has similar training and knowledge, why then did ours get so messed up? Or, is it possible that the guy who was working the sound board was just inexperienced and needed more time? Like, if we'd gone in a month later with the same guy running the recording, it might have been okay?

I was honestly asking that as a question.

I'm not even going to address Subgenius88's post except to say that your username makes great sense to me. SUBgenius. Right.

PMS Azrael · Post by **PMS Azrael** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:21 pm

Oliver's Army wrote:So your complaining about the fidelity of a free courtesy recording from a line out of a board that was mixed on the fly for live sound during a performance?

I wasn't trying to complain any longer, I was just wondering why it happened.

subgenius88 · Post by **subgenius88** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:30 pm

PMS Azrael wrote:

I'm not even going to address Subgenius88's post except to say that your username makes great sense to me. SUBgenius. Right.

Oh no, you're on to me already.

bludspyre · Post by **bludspyre** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:43 pm

PMS Azrael wrote:
Oliver's Army wrote:So your complaining about the fidelity of a free courtesy recording from a line out of a board that was mixed on the fly for live sound during a performance?
I wasn't trying to complain any longer, I was just wondering why it happened.

I have record live shows at the JamCrib, and most of the times it has come out clear enough. The reason was because our bassist does the sound for the JamCrib when he can, and when we play, but it takes the right amount of volume, and a steady hand to actually record REALLY decent quality. But as the toehrs have said, 'it's free, so you get what you give'

PMS Azrael · Post by **PMS Azrael** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:49 pm

bludspyre wrote: I have record live shows at the JamCrib, and most of the times it has come out clear enough. The reason was because our bassist does the sound for the JamCrib when he can, and when we play, but it takes the right amount of volume, and a steady hand to actually record REALLY decent quality. But as the toehrs have said, 'it's free, so you get what you give'

I have no experience with sound equipment at all so I don't know how it works. That's probably another part of the reason I don't understand why a single instrument would change while the others stayed the same and then back again.. Ah well. Sigh.

simpletim · Post by **simpletim** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:05 pm

[quote="PMS Azrael"The recording you guys did for my band was really awful with volume and level changes all over the place. Sounded like someone who really had no idea what they were doing was working the sound board.[/quote]

When bands perform on our sound stage only vocals and acoustic instruments are typically run through the PA which the sound man has control over mixing. Its up to the musicians on stage to regulate and adjust the volume of their amps and drums to coincide with the volume of what they hear from the PA. The recordings are a simple stereo mix that picks up everything in the room, not a multitrack system where each instrument is individually mixed for the recording.

There again the primary mission of Jam Crib is to facilitate and help musicians become better performers, not to be a "recording studio" which is why we use the moniker "Music Rehearsal Center". We only really desired to have recording capabilities sufficient for musicians to have a means of evaluating their performances or capturing ideas that occur during the song writing process. The notion is that you spend time improving and preparing yourself at Jam Crib, then go spend the big bucks with a recording engineer in a full-blown recording studio. Hope this will clarify things.

PMS Azrael · Post by **PMS Azrael** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:06 pm

Sigh then maybe it was the guitarist's fault. I don't really remember the details of the recording anymore cos I have listened to it in awhile.

Thanks for your patience trying to explain this to me and I apologize for invalidating your establishment.

So ANYWAYS. I sing. And yeah. I just auditioned for a band, but still would like to find people in case they decide to go with someone else.

andrew spangler · Post by **andrew spangler** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:35 pm

planning to do anything soon?

andrew spangler · Post by **andrew spangler** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:37 am

I'm a patient guy.