Smokers don't get a place to go anymore that doesnt ential freezing their asses off that is.
Kinda like when non smokers had to freeze their asses off outside to get some fresh air.[/quote]
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OH! Touché!Lou B do B dooo wrote:Smokers don't get a place to go anymore that doesnt ential freezing their asses off that is.
Kinda like when non smokers had to freeze their asses off outside to get some fresh air.
I don't want the same treatment as a "regular" I just don't want to be treated like sh*t. I'm sorta a regular at buckets, my friends are definate regulars and because of that I get decent service, but I wouldn't expect them to blow off other customers to serve me.The_Dude wrote:Regulars will always get treated better.
Want the same treatment? Become a regular.
City takes away business and now the business has to spend more money to build heated decks. Why do that, when I am sure in a few years they will ban those too.poopstains wrote:I don't want the same treatment as a "regular" I just don't want to be treated like sh*t. I'm sorta a regular at buckets, my friends are definate regulars and because of that I get decent service, but I wouldn't expect them to blow off other customers to serve me.The_Dude wrote:Regulars will always get treated better.
Want the same treatment? Become a regular.
If bar owners are so pissed off about the ban why not create heated smoking decks, it would bring all those poor freezing smokers together and give them a warm place to complain.
[/quote]In my many years of going to the bar, I don't recall ever seeing people outside catching a "fresh air break". In fact, it seems like 8 out of 10 people I see at the bar are smokers. I know 3 people off the top of my head who ONLY smoke when they drink.Lou B do B dooo wrote:Smokers don't get a place to go anymore that doesnt ential freezing their asses off that is.
Kinda like when non smokers had to freeze their asses off outside to get some fresh air.
There have been many gigs I've been on, where, at some point in the evening I have stepped outside so I could get some fresh air. For a non-smoker, some of those places used to get pretty polluted.GoDownProductions wrote: I don't recall ever seeing people outside catching a "fresh air break".
as a "social smoker" - i.e. I smoke a little when out with friends but not otherwise, I could care less either way if a bar is smoking or non-smoking. I actually prefer non-smoking bars as I don't smoke nearly as much that way, but that does not give me, or John Crawford, or any voter, or any politician the right to ban a LEGAL activity in a privately owned, taxpaying establishment. And I do miss playing with my pipe or a cigar in my mouth.Lou B do B dooo wrote:I have also been at gigs that between sets I would go outside to get some air. For years I have been playing in smoke filled bars and never whined about my rights as a non smoker being surpressed. If the smokeing ban were to be lifted tomarrow would I still go to bars? Heck ya I would, I enjoy the company of friends and I as a musician love to play so it is going to take me to a smoke filled bar from time to time. I as a non smoker enjoy going out and not smelling like smoke when I go home. Just my $.02
...yeah, they voted Crawford out! and deservedly so.deek wrote:But don't you think if this wasn't the voice of the people (or that the people didn't care on way or another)? I mean, citizens certainly got in an uproar between the blue and yellow petitions with the whole FWCS thing...I'm sure if the city council was really out of whack, that more than just a handful of bar/club owners would have stepped up...don't you think?
exactly. There's your citizen voice. Now, ammend the law or the rest of you will be replaced next time.WBOB wrote:...yeah, they voted Crawford out! and deservedly so.deek wrote:But don't you think if this wasn't the voice of the people (or that the people didn't care on way or another)? I mean, citizens certainly got in an uproar between the blue and yellow petitions with the whole FWCS thing...I'm sure if the city council was really out of whack, that more than just a handful of bar/club owners would have stepped up...don't you think?