Newbies Beware!!!

Chris B · Post by **Chris B** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:57 pm

The way I understand it to be at Legends is the only time they cut from the door to pay me or "the door witch" (that's the PG rated name for her) is when less than 75 people pay cover. When its over that, Heopp foots that expense and the band gets all that money plus a tab. When less than that pay, $100 comes out for sound ($75 for me and $25 for stage) and $40 comes out for the witch. If there's anything left over it goes to the band.

Like I said earlier though, I don't deal with the money but that's how it was explained to me from Heopp.

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:00 pm

I just can't believe this thread has gotten this long and it all started because of a rock star that only made $200. boo hoo

I'd sh*t a brick if we got $200 from legends! (and not tell anyone else).

Oliver's Army · Post by **Oliver's Army** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:16 pm

Chris B wrote:The way I understand it to be at Legends is the only time they cut from the door to pay me or "the door witch" (that's the PG rated name for her) is when less than 75 people pay cover. When its over that, Heopp foots that expense and the band gets all that money plus a tab. When less than that pay, $100 comes out for sound ($75 for me and $25 for stage) and $40 comes out for the witch. If there's anything left over it goes to the band.

Like I said earlier though, I don't deal with the money but that's how it was explained to me from Heopp.

There's too many "IF's" in this equation

Chris B · Post by **Chris B** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 7:51 pm

the only "if" is the people count. 75 pay or under 75 pay

Chris B · Post by **Chris B** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:21 pm

I just found out that a certain band (name rhymes with FIDELL) was actually done a favor from Legends to even have their show. Someone from the band talked to Kevin one week prior about needing a venue and Kevin went out of his way and moved some stuff around on the calendar so they could play on that night.

So in turn, you bash the bar. Now that's Class!

Kevin also told me that he agrees to sign any contract but if he does he wants specific wording in it. If he is gonna gaurantee your band, you have to gaurantee something back....LIKE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE YOU BRING IN!!!! He can't sign it if you don't show it to him. Quit complaining about it if your not doing anything....

YOU KNOW A LOT OF COOL PEOPLE COME TO THIS SITE AND POST REALLY GOOD/ INTELLIGENT COMMENTS.... TOO BAD A FEW %@^$%^$#$ HAVE TO TAINT THE WATER IN WHICH WE ALL DRINK! THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HOLD BACK OUR MUSIC SCENE!!!!

Bludspyre2006 · Post by **Bludspyre2006** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:19 pm

well, my comment earlier about the venue stays the same. I was informed that we had a certain amount of people. As I said before, I don't really care about the money, but if there is cash to be made then friggin' A.

One thing I am tired of is people getting their panties in a twist b/c someone criticizes a venue or a band because they're pissed off. You know what? It's just the basic BS you get with being in a band. I'm the lead singer of one of the bands that played at Legend. I personally would play there again b/c I had fun. The sound guy was good, I had no probs with him at all. I didn't say anything negative, and I never will. But don't say negative $hi+ like 'it's all about the money', or 'notice the only ones B!tchin are the crappy bands that should be thankful to just have a gig.'

Ya' know I've heard people say support the local music scene, when I've seen people tear it down limb from limb. I'm tired of it.

Chris B, you are a good sound guy. I had no problems, it just sucked that I was only regulated to outside or the stage, but that's the rules, and my guitarist and I didn't say $hi+.

Truthfully, every band in Fort Wayne sounds $hi++y to somebody else, but that's what we call VARIETY. Almost every fortwayne band I've heard is good (xcept a few that I will not mention b/c I respect musicians)

Can't we all just get along.

from StG

taw2870 · Post by **taw2870** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:10 am

it was 200 to split with 3 bands and kevins set up the gig your employee
and went back on his word its not the money its the you cant stand behind it then dont give it (((((just lie)))) and set up the show

taw2870 · Post by **taw2870** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:42 am

chris b did not set up the show or ask the door lady how many came through the people that was there was set to come friends and familey
and fans 30 people was regulars according to the door lady and kevin
so chris get full facts before posting i got the bull crp story from your people ((( like i said it was not the it was the fact some one lied )))
i have nothin bad to say to you chris you are a good sound man
this post was just to let new bands what to there in for
all the places i have set up never went back on ther word
and if we where so crappy why they ask us to come back same line up
they seen the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ so its not just the bands
that are looking for money .......... so people if this has made some people mad it was just information thats all

taw2870 · Post by **taw2870** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:39 pm

chris b who did who a favor.... your band for that day backed out..... we guaranteed at least 100 people, we kept our end 169!!!!! by the way Fidell had nothing to do with this article.... get your facts straight!!! i also heard thru the grapevine that even Chris Shaffer cancelled this establisment!!! we aren't complaining about compensation.. we're complaining about the shady practices thats obviously has been going on for some time! a Verbal agreement is how most Fort Wayne business owners like to do business... But at least they keep thier agreements... not say thank you guys saved our asses now bend over!

FortWayneMusician · Post by **FortWayneMusician** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:46 pm

For once, I'm glad I'm in a cover band!! (DEFINATELY not bragging) I can't imagine playing for less than $600 a night! My hat is off to all you guys/girls for taking this crap from Legends!!!!!!!!! We'd pay an original band 200 bucks to open a show...plus free drinks... Maybe that's what you guys/girls should do. Find a cover band that is "similar" to your original style and approach them about openning a show. Set up merch and go for it!!!!!!

Have a great, musical day!!

Massage...Bored · Post by **Massage...Bored** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:48 am

I enjoy the fact that the original poster had to be "sneaky" and sign-in with a new account to complain about all of this. Wanna talk about shady practices? How about having to hide your already psuedo-anonymous identity on an internet message board to whine about getting paid for playing original music on a weekend in a bar. No matter what the amount is, you still got paid. I can count, on two hands, the number of paying gigs we've had in the past 5 years. Stop crying about this. Aren't you metal guys supposed to be a bit less whiny and a bit more grizzled?

taw2870 · Post by **taw2870** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:00 pm

first of all i did not start up a new account to post this check the date
second no one gets the why the post was put up To help new
bands look for hiden cost when they play three no name was said where it was at
in the first post . names was brought up later
no one is whining
i dont like being told one thing and mean another its wrong
so if people cant get what this post was for they should take it down
it was only gonna run for a week
you guys and girls got to here from both sides do the math nothin
comes out right

Oliver's Army · Post by **Oliver's Army** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:11 pm

wow.

english-n-stuff.

switzerland666 · Post by **switzerland666** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:00 pm

has legends fixed their sound problem yet?

Tri-State Killing Spree · Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:21 pm

We have played legends more than anyone on this board ask Kevin, Chris b, and Chris. They have always paid us good !!! Sometimes on the low side when the place was not packed and we have made up to 300 bucks too playing legends.

Im just sick of hearing all the bullSh1t about legends. They are one of the only bars to let non cover bands play on a weekend. So quit your bitching please!!!!!! Like Chris says they wont miss you guys playing away!!

I like legends and they are a fair when it comes down to the money !!