Cigar taxes to rise 20,000%!

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:57 pm

Sankofa wrote:
bassjones wrote:This is what happens when you elect Democrats to run things. They raise taxes on EVERYTHING. Republicans aren't much better, but they're better than this. If they can't pass laws to stop behavior they don't like, they'll try to guilt trip you into it, and if they can't guilt trip you into it, they'll tax your a#% into compliance.
As opposed to the Republican party which has tried to bomb the middle east into a democracy without thinking they'll need raise taxes to pay for it?

I'm with Ollie on this one.

I thought we were just there for the oil, none of which we've bothered to confiscate.

Sankofa · Post by **Sankofa** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:01 pm

nah, we're there to liberate the godless

MrSpall · Post by **MrSpall** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:03 pm

Garr wrote:your math might be right, but it's misrepresenting the truth.

you can't compare the old tax percent to the new tax cap.

you can only compare the old tax cap to the new tax cap or the old tax percent to the new tax percent. in comparing the old tax cap to the new tax cap, there is a 20,000% difference.

in addition, the article really isn't well written because it tries to mix-manage those two terms as well.

without knowing what the old tax rate was, you can't calculate the increase of the new tax percent.

statistics may lie, but this is not statistics. this is a single equation relating the old cap and the new cap. there are no statistics even being discussed here.

Technically I was comparing the old tax cap of 5 cents (which I can't imagine the rate regularly getting under) to the new tax percent (which I was imagining would be the standard as the cap seemed unreasonably high). My point is valid. My math is correct. For the cigars I was referencing, the results I came to were correct.

As far as statistics, I grant you that they aren't in play here, but number manipulation - a staple of statistics certainly is. I didn't know a better term to use to describe the manipulation of the numbers in question. Here you could be of assistance as your vocabulary greatly exceeds mine - but leave my math alone, it's right.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:11 pm

Sankofa wrote:nah, we're there to liberate the godless

or those longing to be free...

MrSpall · Post by **MrSpall** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:16 pm

bassjones wrote: or those longing to be free...

What about the tired? The poor? The huddled masses?

Post by **cwallace** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:19 pm

Maybe we could move the statue of liberty out in the water near there and they will all start heading that way...or a replica of it anyway...

Chris

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:23 pm

give it to them. hell, the damn french gave it to us in the first place. who wants that?

WBOB · Post by **WBOB** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:25 pm

Let's play trojan statue..... Cram it full of explosives first ....