Your views on promotion

big ben parliament · Post by **big ben parliament** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:11 am

Re: what Ollie, cwallace and Fleek said.

We've looked into it, and the time slots that we can afford would actually reach our target audience. Spot on, in fact.
We can't afford to run during Grey's Anatomy, obviously, but we'd hit the wierdo market, which is exactly where we want to be.

HillgrassBluebillyFTW · Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:13 am

Al, you have to realize who you were dealing with on that one.

Oliver's Army · Post by **Oliver's Army** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:15 am

Read the fine print and ask about getting bumped, and what channels it will air.

The second someone offers a $1 more... your spot gets axed.

Trust me.

Its what I do.

big ben parliament · Post by **big ben parliament** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:16 am

Oliver's Army wrote:Read the fine print and ask about getting bumped.

The second someone offers a $1 more... your spot gets axed.

Trust me.

Its what I do.

Good point.

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:42 am

anderson wrote:Al, you have to realize who you were dealing with on that one.

Well honestly they were treating us well for a while. But we got completely shafted that night. I am sure the WH walked out with a boat load of money too after playing 6 20minute songs.

LC Pwince · Post by **LC Pwince** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:55 am

Oliver's Army wrote:
LC Pwince wrote:What about thinking outside the box for promotions? I've had lengthy discussions with some people about running TV spots on Comcast. DIRT CHEAP.
All is not what it seems until you see an air schedule and a potential bill in front of you.

Actually, I've seen an air schedule and a bill, and they were dirt cheap. We know who are target audience is, and we know what shows/networks they would like. They aren't necessarily the most desired networks and spots that the cable company has to offer. No matter what you do, it pays to know the audience you are trying to attract and focus accordingly.

The_Dude · Post by **The_Dude** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:58 am

kimaliz wrote:
anderson wrote:Al, you have to realize who you were dealing with on that one.
Well honestly they were treating us well for a while. But we got completely shafted that night. I am sure the WH walked out with a boat load of money too after playing 6 20minute songs.

No disrespect to the Wailhounds, but Legends swings from their nuts. It's "their" (WH) annual Thanksgiving show. You shouldn't be surprised.

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:01 pm

The_Dude wrote:
kimaliz wrote:
anderson wrote:Al, you have to realize who you were dealing with on that one.
Well honestly they were treating us well for a while. But we got completely shafted that night. I am sure the WH walked out with a boat load of money too after playing 6 20minute songs.
No disrespect to the Wailhounds, but Legends swings from their nuts. It's "their" (WH) annual Thanksgiving show. You shouldn't be surprised.

I was excepting them to make more before I found out that they were using our equipment and we were getting shafted on time slots.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:02 pm

There's a reason Legend's "swings from their nuts"... They normally bring out a great crowd. PM is starting to do the same, so you should ask for pay accordingly. Once WHN gets to the point where the bar is consistently packed and buying drinks, we'll be upping our asking price, I guarantee you that.

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:05 pm

bassjones wrote:There's a reason Legend's "swings from their nuts"... They normally bring out a great crowd. PM is starting to do the same, so you should ask for pay accordingly. Once WHN gets to the point where the bar is consistently packed and buying drinks, we'll be upping our asking price, I guarantee you that.

Thats the thing, that night they didnt, it was mostly people for the game. There were at most 5 people dancing everyone else was just sitting

deek · Post by **deek** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:07 pm

Shouldn't that fall under the "know your audience" category? I mean, Legend's SPORTS BAR on Thanksgiving Thursday night with a Colts game starting at 8:15...I guess that just seems to be a no-brainer to me...

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:12 pm

We were told and advertised 10pm. We shouldnt find out that we arent playing until 11:30 when we show up.

The_Dude · Post by **The_Dude** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:12 pm

bassjones wrote:There's a reason Legend's "swings from their nuts"... They normally bring out a great crowd.

Agreed.

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:15 pm

Even if they didn't THAT night. They normally do, so they got the time slot they wanted and they got paid more. period.

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:45 pm

bassjones wrote:Even if they didn't THAT night. They normally do, so they got the time slot they wanted and they got paid more. period.

My point is that we were told and under the impression until the moment we arrive to load in...

Time Slots were alternating

Us (open), them, Us, Them (Close)
Show starts at 10pm

What ended up was

Hey can we use your equipment?
Hey you cant play until 11:30
Hey we changed the schedule

Oh and BTW you are getting paid the same as anyother night.