IS BIGFOOT REAL?

[ssrjosh]

squirrels exist too... why arent you guys obsessed with squirrels or raccoons or something? why bigfoot?

my aim screenname is squirrelsfly, and i do believe

[FATA1337]

i voted no, i think its nonsence, it is just like talk about forking ufo's some guy made up like over 100 pics

[scuzzbagcomics]

sure there are a bunch of fake ufo pics, but there have been real ones but they mostly get confiscated by the Men in black. lots of people have seen them. its a conspiracy. just like why isn't indianarchy ruling the world.

[ssrjosh]

the votes are becoming close

[scuzzbagcomics]

too close

[hxctimmy]

Why the heck does it matter? Maybe they exist, maybe the don't. What's it going to change about your daily life?

[sharkmansix]

What about this? From some stuff I pulled off of the web.

Ray Wallace claimed to have produced a substantial amount of hoaxed evidence from 1958 onward in a prank that continued beyond his expectations. Wallace's family published many of the details following his death in 2002. Wallace's assertions are often considered a serious blow against Bigfoot claims to the casual observer.

then

At least one film (the Patterson-Gimlin film) shows something that is definitely not a bear, and this film was for a long time considered the strongest evidence for Bigfoot. Wallace claimed to have been involved in hoaxing the film. Some have accepted Wallace's claims and consider the film phony, while others have refuted Wallace's statements.

and

Curiously, the creature possesses both a male sagittal crest (as in gorillas) and pendulous female breasts (as in human and chimpanzee females). Some have argued that the sagittal crest is not a male or female trait, but a size-related trait.

finally

There have been many reported sightings, but physical evidence for the existence of Bigfoot has been ambigous at best, or hoaxes at worst. There have been no dead bodies,bones or artifacts. There have been reported samples of fur and faeces, but analyses have varied widely. Considering how many amateur and professional researchers have been looking for such evidence for decades, the absence of such evidence seems to some sufficient evidence for Bigfoot´s absence.

[scuzzbagcomics]

of course there have been hoaxes. but mANY CANNOT be discredited. wallace had wooden feet he strapped on to make fake tracks. now consider that many tracks have different widths between toes from step to step, some steps the print is flexed differnetly, something some wooden feet would be incapable of.

like i said the film was already proved authentic by the nations leading scientists, anthropologists, etc. http://www.bfro.net/LMS/LMS.asp

nearly every witness has said they have crested heads and a trait in gorillas is not going to necessarily be the same in bigfoot.

There have been no dead bodies,bones or artifacts

remeber they are uncommon. remains of no animal are found in the forest. scavengers are prevalent. check this out. http://bfro.net/gdb/show_FAQ.asp?id=409

[sharkmansix]

IMO, those scientists just proved Bigfoot could exist, but they have very little physical evidence proving his existance.

Plus, what about this article?:

"It’s time people knew it was a hoax," Bob Heironimus told the paper earlier this month. "It’s time to let this thing go. I’ve been burdened with this for 36 years, seeing the film clip on TV numerous times."

The 60-second film shows a hairy, hulking creature with a pointed head and flaring nostrils looking back over its right shoulder at the whirring camera.

The monstrous thing is estimated to have been about 7 feet tall and 3 feet across the shoulders. Plaster casts of the prints revealed a 14-inch foot.

Heironimus, 63, now insists it was all an act by folks with average size feet aping Bigfoot. His confession is also in "The Making of Bigfoot," a recently published book by paranormal investigator Greg Long.

The author even traces the ape suit to a North Carolina gorilla suit specialist, Philip Morris, who says he sold it for $435 to Roger Patterson, a former rodeo rider turned amateur filmmaker.

and

The legend of Bigfoot originated in Yakima, Washington, but according to costume maker Philip Morris it was a Charlotte, North Carolina, gorilla suit that sparked an international cult. Morris says he made the suit worn in the famous Patterson film. Morris is featured in a new book that debunks the legend of Bigfoot.

[braintrain01]

in the "sasquatch legend meets science" Documentary they proved that the paterson footage was real becous of the musal movement on the legs it was imposable to fake that with the tecnology of that time.........................

[sharkmansix]

I saw that show, and while convincing, IMO all you just needed to do is have something roll on the leg, under the suit.

[braintrain01]

Ok but it also showed it was imposable for a human to walk like that because of the way the knees moved.

and there have been reports of hairy hominids like Sasquatch, bigfoot on every Continent

[sharkmansix]

Reports are one thing, but I'll wait for some evidence first.

(As a kid, I used to think the Swamp Thing lived in my house, and I bet I could write some interesting reports.)

So, I have a question, are all of the mythological beasts rumored to exist real?

So is the Loch Ness sea beast real?
What about the El Chapacubra?
How about some fairies or gnomes?
What about Trolls and Orcs?

Are you sure you didn't watch Harry and the Hendersons one too many times as a kid?

[scuzzbagcomics]

sharkman said

but they have very little physical evidence proving his existance.

actually fottprint castes constitute physical evidence. If you're talking about hair, body parts etc. that is known as physical remains.

"It’s time people knew it was a hoax," Bob Heironimus told the paper earlier this month. "It’s time to let this thing go. I’ve been burdened with this for 36 years, seeing the film clip on TV numerous times."

That guy was a hoaxer, he never saw a real one. why did he hoax it? because he didn't believe in them and he wanted to make people look stupid for believing in it. of course he's going to say they aren't real. And seriously, how much credibility are you going to give to a hoaxer?

Heironimus, 63, now insists it was all an act by folks with average size feet aping Bigfoot.

He might have, but hundreds of tracks found all over north america from alaska to california to florida, quebec, indiana, newyork all say a different story. on human feet, the ridges run horizontally across the width of the foot. in primates, they run diagonally. but on hundreds of bigfoot castes found in nearly every part of north america, the rdges run vertically across the length of the foot. humans could not make them.

primates footprint experts explained all the truth about this on legend meets science. http://www.bfro.net/LMS/LMS.asp

The author even traces the ape suit to a North Carolina gorilla suit specialist, Philip Morris, who says he sold it for $435 to Roger Patterson, a former rodeo rider turned amateur filmmaker.

and of course, let's all believe a hoaxer, because they're all such honest people. Special effects experts from universal studios said that it would have been impossible to make such an elaboarte suit in 1967. on the film, muscles are clearly seen to bulge and flex with every movement, every step the creature takes. you can see its body frame pretty well on the film, and it is clearly not a human body.

and even if it was a suit that was that far ahead of its time in 1967, you couldn't get one that elaborate for $435 dollars and definitely not from a gorilla suit peddler.

The legend of Bigfoot originated in Yakima, Washington, but according to costume maker Philip Morris it was a Charlotte, North Carolina, gorilla suit that sparked an international cult.

sasquatch isn't a fad or a flavor of the month. native americans have been telling stories about creatures with very simialr descriptions to bigfoots for hundreds if not thousands of years. they have been here a long time and they know how to survive and that is by staying unseen

[scuzzbagcomics]

So, I have a question, are all of the mythological beasts rumored to exist real?

i wont go into them. ill save them for a different thread. this one is for sasquatch.