IS BIGFOOT REAL?

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IS BIGFOOT REAL?

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Post by sharkmansix »

Kinda. I'm saying, how can you put so much faith in something that has been digitally remastered. This isn't some studio album, it's moving pictures.

That means they at least edited out some of the visual noise from the film (scratches, dust, etc) and also tweaked the color. They probably bumped up the levels of the color, giving the image an overall brighter image.

(This is all educated guesses, as I work in the industry of making pictures and video look better.)

Doing such things changes the images on the film. It might bring out things that aren't really there, or it might change the shadows, ad infimuim.

If the film has been altered, how can you trust it?
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If the film has been altered, how can you trust it?
because its been improved. the coloring looks very natural. considering the people who are involved with it all. I trust Dr. Jeff Meldrom.

Remember that the film isnt the only proof. footprints have been found with 8 foot strides. one such line of footprints were 20 inches long, with an 8 foot stride, found by a park rnager out west in 2 feet of snow. he followed the prints for 2 miles when he gave it up as they continued even farther through the mountains. Its sake to say that could not have been hoaxed. Footprints from different regions all across the country have been authenticized by leading primate footprint analysts. The possibility of it all being a hoax has been defeated. There is something there and the cryptozoologists will continue to make new and greater finds.
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because its been improved.
Or altered. Do you have the original footage to run it against as a test?

The possibility of it all being a hoax has been defeated.
How can you say this? What scientific journal did Dr. Jeff Meldrom make this claim!?!? What other scientists back this?

Come on, now you just seem to be reaching.
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This Jeff guy needs some more degrees or something for me to trust him. From his website:

Dr. Jeff Meldrum 
Associate Professor of Anatomy and Anthropology 
Idaho State University 

Affiliate Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology 
Idaho Museum of Natural History 

Affiliate Curator of the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization 


Talk about some bland credentials. Is he a doctor in Antropology? On that note, what is he a doctor of?
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Do you have the original footage to run it against as a test?
no but ive seen it. its the same thing its obvious. it doesn't look digitally altered, it looks pretty real. see it yourself and tell me what you think.
What scientific journal did Dr. Jeff Meldrom make this claim!?!? What other scientists back this?
of course bigfoot is a controversy, maning that mainstream science wont accept it, but for the growing number of cryptozoologists and other scientists, and the thousands of witnesses, people that have seen bigfoot, it is all too real. its not just a controversy though, its a conspiracy. mainstream science turns a deaf ear to the proof because they cannot accept it. close-mindedness. until they catch a bigfoot, they will not listen, but they will eventually.

Remember that colonists, explorers, and african natives had been telling stories of big black humanlike animals that lived in african mountains (gorillas) for many years, but the scientific community would not believe it. They thought it was impossible for something so close to humans to exist. until a gorilla was captured and brought back to these scientists.

This is the same thing
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Those same people also talked about:

Elves
Fairies
Pixies
Goblins
Trolls
Orcs
Redcaps
Pookas
Sprites
Giants....ad infinium

can you really trust those people either?
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for one thing Jeff Meldrum is my hero
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For another, a lot of those things have been witnessed by many people for a long time. I'm open-minded, and i dont know if those things are real or not. But I think its safe to say that Meldrum has more authority to say that bigfoot is real than you do to say that its fake.

as for fairies and leprechauns and such they've got a webcam set up in a fairy's glade...

http://www.irelandseye.com/leprechaun/lwatchnj.htm

maybe you'll see one
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I'm open-minded, and i dont know if those things are real or not. But I think its safe to say that Meldrum has more authority to say that bigfoot is real than you do to say that its fake.
This is the first time you've said you were open-minded on this subject, and yes, he probably does.

But if I can come up with all of these counter-arguements, then there is a need for more evidence of some kind, to have difinitive proof.
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sure, no zoology books are going to include bigfoot in them until they find one. we wont be 100% sure that they are real (100% of the population that is) until someone catches one. but many people are already convinced. when you see one face to face, when you see how natural footage looks, when you realize that there are fossil remains from a large primate which is very similar to modern day sasquatch descriptions, or when you hear one moaning in a swamp behind your house, there is no need for additional proofs, we already know its real. So we're gonna keep trying to convince others but when you all finally agree that its real and the zoology books are all rewritten, then we'll finally be able to sigh and say..."I told you so."
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What are the undisputed facts about the bigfoot / sasquatch mystery?
It's a fact that for more than 400 years people have reported seeing large, hair-covered, man-like animals in the wilderness areas of North America.
It is a fact that sightings of these animals continue today. Real or not, these reports are often made by people of unimpeachable character.
It is a fact that, for over seventy years, people have been finding, photographing, and casting sets of very large human-shaped tracks. Most are discovered by chance in remote areas. These tracks continue to be found to this day.
It is a fact that the cultural histories of many Native American and First Nation peoples include stories and beliefs about non-human "peoples" of the wild. Many of these descriptions bear a striking resemblance to the hairy man-like creatures reported today.
These are some of the facts. There is, however, much disagreement as to what these facts mean.
To many, these facts, taken together, suggest the presence of an animal, probably a primate, that exists today in very low population densities. If true, this species, having likely evolved alongside humans, became astonishingly adept at avoiding human contact through a process of natural selection.
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Post by braintrain01 »

if you want to hear some sound recordings of bigfoot
here is a link to site

http://www.bfro.net/avevid/SierraSounds/911.asp
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i am big foot
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Post by scuzzbagcomics »

you're an animorph! you turn into a goat, not bigfoot!
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Post by jonny »

I agree with the scuzzbag bigfoot has to be real from the evidence.

no offense scuzzbag
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thanks to the troll, the evidence does support its existence

no offense troll
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