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Do people in Fort Wayne, bands and bars, understand the role of a Promoter?

In trying to deal with new bars in recent months I've come to a conclusion that many people may not understand the role of a promoter.

Do all the hard work for little or no recognition...

My role with local bands was more of a manager/promoter.

The issues that killed more opportunities was the complete lack of commnication between the players and myself.

If you are going to pay me 10-15% of your money to book your gigs, promote your band and keep you busy... for pete's sake keep me up to date on your availability, don't question/argue about what-where-when to play, answer the phone and return a damn Email.

OR just do it yourself.

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Personally, I would be happy to give up a percentage to ensure that the show was promoted properly.

Oliver's Army wrote:My role with local bands was more of a manager/promoter.

The issues that killed more opportunities was the complete lack of commnication between the players and myself.

If you are going to pay me 10-15% of your money to book your gigs, promote your band and keep you busy... for pete's sake keep me up to date on your availability, don't question/argue about what-where-when to play, answer the phone and return a damn Email.

OR just do it yourself.

(FB)

Oddly enough, back when I was in a band, there were plenty of those same communication problems WITHIN THE BAND...so I am not surprised. But I think that is what you deal with when the band is not full-time...I mean, with jobs and other hobbies, things seem to change every day.

Now, I am sure some of that was between the "frontman" and the venue, but when communication with your own bandmates is lacking...it can suck hard!

And I would think, any local band that had good enough communication to work well with a manager/promoter, would probably be able to handle their own scheduling and promotion...its the ones that can't that normally look for help...

IME and IMO, the busiest people are usually the most reliable though. I'm not available last minute very often, but I'm rarely if ever cancelling gigs/practices because I can't be there or worse, just not showing up. I have a tight schedule and I honor it.

anderson wrote:Do people in Fort Wayne, bands and bars, understand the role of a Promoter?

In trying to deal with new bars in recent months I've come to a conclusion that many people may not understand the role of a promoter.

In a word, I'd say no.

LC Pwince wrote:

anderson wrote:Do people in Fort Wayne, bands and bars, understand the role of a Promoter?

In trying to deal with new bars in recent months I've come to a conclusion that many people may not understand the role of a promoter.

In a word, I'd say no.

I totally agree... am I the last of a dying breed? Or is Fort Wayne just dumb?

I don't think bands or bars realize the benefits of having a promoter, because I don't think there are enough people who have done it well around here. I'm not talking about you, BTW Ando.

LC Pwince wrote:I don't think bands or bars realize the benefits of having a promoter, because I don't think there are enough people who have done it well around here. I'm not talking about you, BTW Ando.

There are local people booking gigs that have no concept of the fact that they are representing the band they're booking. I was talking with a bar owner not long ago, and the conversation was going fine...up until the point that the owner made the connection that I had played in a band that was "promoted" by a certain gentleman. The owner's attitude changed 180 degrees and they abruptly ended our talk, all due to the fact that some guy that was booking our band was a total douche.

anderson wrote:

LC Pwince wrote:

anderson wrote:Do people in Fort Wayne, bands and bars, understand the role of a Promoter?

In trying to deal with new bars in recent months I've come to a conclusion that many people may not understand the role of a promoter.

In a word, I'd say no.

I totally agree... am I the last of a dying breed? Or is Fort Wayne just dumb?

I quit focusing on it for that reason. Too much personal money spent, and not enough gained, then not to mention the complaining after every event.

kimaliz wrote:

anderson wrote:

LC Pwince wrote: In a word, I'd say no.

I totally agree... am I the last of a dying breed? Or is Fort Wayne just dumb?

I quit focusing on it for that reason. Too much personal money spent, and not enough gained, then not to mention the complaining after every event.

I don't get complaints... maybe my shows are better than yours were.

HAHA!

anderson wrote:

LC Pwince wrote:

anderson wrote:Do people in Fort Wayne, bands and bars, understand the role of a Promoter?

In trying to deal with new bars in recent months I've come to a conclusion that many people may not understand the role of a promoter.

In a word, I'd say no.

I totally agree... am I the last of a dying breed? Or is Fort Wayne just dumb?

I think it's more of bars don't really want to deal with bands as much, I mean for a few hundred bucks they can hire a DJ for the weekend that plays nothin but hip hop or techno and bring in the binge drinking 21 y/o's and the places that do book bands (other than places like peires) don't want to pay much. unless you're working in a studio and have a band it's hard to devote 100% to a band and not just have is as an evening/weekend hobby