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your thoughts on graffiti
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:52 am
by Dose-V.I.K
''if you`ve ever walked down the street, seen a name , and wondered what that marking meant, i`ll tell you: it means somebody is telling you a story about who they are and what they are prepared to do to make you aware of it . every time a name is written, a story gets told . it`s a short story : '' i was here.'' who is telling it and where they were telling it will determine how the story ends . some stories will be adventures, some tragedies, and some courtroom depositions. but every story has a star , a stage , and an audience''
espo
if you have a story or just wanna tell me how much you hate it ,please indulge me

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:02 pm
by Shrugie
I would like to more "artistic" graffiti. Most of the stuff I see around town are just names, and while I am glad that you can all spell I would like to see complex designs and explosions of color.
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:07 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
Shrugie wrote:I would like to more "artistic" graffiti. Most of the stuff I see around town are just names, and while I am glad that you can all spell I would like to see complex designs and explosions of color.
the main thing about what you see , is that it takes to long to do. it does look good but most of us stick to bombs or ''tags''.
trust me its not as easy as you think . go try it

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:16 pm
by Shrugie
Dose-V.I.K wrote:Shrugie wrote:I would like to more "artistic" graffiti. Most of the stuff I see around town are just names, and while I am glad that you can all spell I would like to see complex designs and explosions of color.
the main thing about what you see , is that it takes to long to do. it does look good but most of us stick to bombs or ''tags''.
trust me its not as easy as you think . go try it

I wasn't trying to say that any of you are untalented or that it's not hard to do. I know that
I couldn't do it for the life of me. I just meant that it would be really cool to see some Rob Zombie-like drawings done in spraypaint on the side of a wall or train..
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:19 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
Shrugie wrote:Dose-V.I.K wrote:Shrugie wrote:I would like to more "artistic" graffiti. Most of the stuff I see around town are just names, and while I am glad that you can all spell I would like to see complex designs and explosions of color.
the main thing about what you see , is that it takes to long to do. it does look good but most of us stick to bombs or ''tags''.
trust me its not as easy as you think . go try it

I wasn't trying to say that any of you are untalented or that it's not hard to do. I know that
I couldn't do it for the life of me. I just meant that it would be really cool to see some Rob Zombie-like drawings done in spraypaint on the side of a wall or train..

im still workin on it

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:21 pm
by Shrugie
You'll have to PM or email me to let me know when you get it finished and where it's at. Good luck. Don't get yourself arrested!

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:29 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
Shrugie wrote:You'll have to PM or email me to let me know when you get it finished and where it's at. Good luck. Don't get yourself arrested!

caught once ......................never again.----

me and sope went out last night

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:07 pm
by sope
indeed we were..... did you catch those flix? oh and dose, where did you copy that beautiful little monologue from, i know i've heard it or something very similat before....

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:21 pm
by adam atherton
question- and not to sound like an old guy...
but would SOMEONE please explain to me when someone ceases to be a vandal, and transforms through some mystical metamorphosis to become a "graf writer"?????????
"WRITER"????????????
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:23 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
sope wrote:indeed we were..... did you catch those flix? oh and dose, where did you copy that beautiful little monologue from, i know i've heard it or something very similat before....

espo
the art of getting over. igot pix and we did not do as bad as we thought at all 
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:35 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
adam atherton wrote:question- and not to sound like an old guy...
but would SOMEONE please explain to me when someone ceases to be a vandal, and transforms through some mystical metamorphosis to become a "graf writer"?????????
"WRITER"????????????
vandals break shi.t destory things beyond repair.We the ''graf-writers'' apply a medium of art that makes you have a real urban reaction.good or bad reactions, as long as i got some point across.''WRITERS'' being to fact that we incorparate letters in this hated art form
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:49 pm
by jojo the circus monkey
good question.
and tough...
i think graffiti can represent a mutuality. it goes beyond the borders of private property. i'm not sure i 100% believe in private property. (like in the sense that i dont believe in santa or morlocks. it's an abstraction just like any sort of logic.) the rest of this will be rushed out because i haven't had a chance to really get deep with it:
graffiti is a reminder that we share life. it's a slap in the face. "you own this wall, it's yours, it's 100% government guaranteed to you. but now there's art on it. how can this be?" it's a value-check. to me it's like if i saw a momma/dadda slapping their kid in the face. i'd say "i really dont think you should slap your kid in the face." the obvious response is: "It's none of your business! this kid is mine! it's 100% government gauranteed!" but is the kid 100% theirs? is the wall 100% anyone's? is anything 100% anyone's?
and not only that, but it's an art attack! no matter the definition, i think art could be said to have some value contained within it. trying to add value and life back into our mechanized lifestyles can't be too bad of a thing - unless a threat to the mechanization is a bad thing (which i do not think it is). good graffiti, and not jackass graffiti, can represent a lot. it adds colour, value, and life to a (very literally) bleached culture.
graffiti is about as subversive as not standing for the pledge of allegiance. which means it's about as awesome as it gets (when properly done).
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:59 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
jojo the circus monkey wrote:good question.
and tough...
i think graffiti can represent a mutuality. it goes beyond the borders of private property. i'm not sure i 100% believe in private property. (like in the sense that i dont believe in santa or morlocks. it's an abstraction just like any sort of logic.) the rest of this will be rushed out because i haven't had a chance to really get deep with it:
graffiti is a reminder that we share life. it's a slap in the face. "you own this wall, it's yours, it's 100% government guaranteed to you. but now there's art on it. how can this be?" it's a value-check. to me it's like if i saw a momma/dadda slapping their kid in the face. i'd say "i really dont think you should slap your kid in the face." the obvious response is: "It's none of your business! this kid is mine! it's 100% government gauranteed!" but is the kid 100% theirs? is the wall 100% anyone's? is anything 100% anyone's?
and not only that, but it's an art attack! no matter the definition, i think art could be said to have some value contained within it. trying to add value and life back into our mechanized lifestyles can't be too bad of a thing - unless a threat to the mechanization is a bad thing (which i do not think it is). good graffiti, and not jackass graffiti, can represent a lot. it adds colour, value, and life to a (very literally) bleached culture.
graffiti is about as subversive as not standing for the pledge of allegiance. which means it's about as awesome as it gets (when properly done).
WOW

someone with a mind.very deep
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:10 am
by Al Quandt
God Artform???? It's kiddie paint! F*ckin stupid. I am glad I dont have any friends that do that sh*t. God id kick their paint can huffin asses. Hmm then I again I may be lying.
_al
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:36 am
by Dose-V.I.K
kimaliz wrote:God Artform???? It's kiddie paint! F*ckin stupid. I am glad I dont have any friends that do that sh*t. God id kick their paint can huffin asses. Hmm then I again I may be lying.
_al
you know a few