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your thoughts on graffiti

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 3:52 am
by Dose-V.I.K
''if you`ve ever walked down the street, seen a name , and wondered what that marking meant, i`ll tell you: it means somebody is telling you a story about who they are and what they are prepared to do to make you aware of it . every time a name is written, a story gets told . it`s a short story : '' i was here.'' who is telling it and where they were telling it will determine how the story ends . some stories will be adventures, some tragedies, and some courtroom depositions. but every story has a star , a stage , and an audience''
espo

if you have a story or just wanna tell me how much you hate it ,please indulge me :-({|=

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:02 pm
by Shrugie
I would like to more "artistic" graffiti. Most of the stuff I see around town are just names, and while I am glad that you can all spell I would like to see complex designs and explosions of color.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:07 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
Shrugie wrote:I would like to more "artistic" graffiti. Most of the stuff I see around town are just names, and while I am glad that you can all spell I would like to see complex designs and explosions of color.
the main thing about what you see , is that it takes to long to do. it does look good but most of us stick to bombs or ''tags''.




trust me its not as easy as you think . go try it :D

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:16 pm
by Shrugie
Dose-V.I.K wrote:
Shrugie wrote:I would like to more "artistic" graffiti. Most of the stuff I see around town are just names, and while I am glad that you can all spell I would like to see complex designs and explosions of color.
the main thing about what you see , is that it takes to long to do. it does look good but most of us stick to bombs or ''tags''.

trust me its not as easy as you think . go try it :D
I wasn't trying to say that any of you are untalented or that it's not hard to do. I know that I couldn't do it for the life of me. I just meant that it would be really cool to see some Rob Zombie-like drawings done in spraypaint on the side of a wall or train..

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:19 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
Shrugie wrote:
Dose-V.I.K wrote:
Shrugie wrote:I would like to more "artistic" graffiti. Most of the stuff I see around town are just names, and while I am glad that you can all spell I would like to see complex designs and explosions of color.
the main thing about what you see , is that it takes to long to do. it does look good but most of us stick to bombs or ''tags''.

trust me its not as easy as you think . go try it :D
I wasn't trying to say that any of you are untalented or that it's not hard to do. I know that I couldn't do it for the life of me. I just meant that it would be really cool to see some Rob Zombie-like drawings done in spraypaint on the side of a wall or train..
:-k :-k :-k :-k :-k im still workin on it :D

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:21 pm
by Shrugie
You'll have to PM or email me to let me know when you get it finished and where it's at. Good luck. Don't get yourself arrested! :D

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:29 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
Shrugie wrote:You'll have to PM or email me to let me know when you get it finished and where it's at. Good luck. Don't get yourself arrested! :D
caught once ......................never again.---- :2gunfire: me and sope went out last night :snipersmile:

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:07 pm
by sope
indeed we were..... did you catch those flix? oh and dose, where did you copy that beautiful little monologue from, i know i've heard it or something very similat before.... :)

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:21 pm
by adam atherton
question- and not to sound like an old guy...

but would SOMEONE please explain to me when someone ceases to be a vandal, and transforms through some mystical metamorphosis to become a "graf writer"?????????

"WRITER"????????????

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:23 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
sope wrote:indeed we were..... did you catch those flix? oh and dose, where did you copy that beautiful little monologue from, i know i've heard it or something very similat before.... :)
espo the art of getting over. igot pix and we did not do as bad as we thought at all :D

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:35 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
adam atherton wrote:question- and not to sound like an old guy...

but would SOMEONE please explain to me when someone ceases to be a vandal, and transforms through some mystical metamorphosis to become a "graf writer"?????????

"WRITER"????????????
vandals break shi.t destory things beyond repair.We the ''graf-writers'' apply a medium of art that makes you have a real urban reaction.good or bad reactions, as long as i got some point across.''WRITERS'' being to fact that we incorparate letters in this hated art form

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:49 pm
by jojo the circus monkey
good question.

and tough...


i think graffiti can represent a mutuality. it goes beyond the borders of private property. i'm not sure i 100% believe in private property. (like in the sense that i dont believe in santa or morlocks. it's an abstraction just like any sort of logic.) the rest of this will be rushed out because i haven't had a chance to really get deep with it:

graffiti is a reminder that we share life. it's a slap in the face. "you own this wall, it's yours, it's 100% government guaranteed to you. but now there's art on it. how can this be?" it's a value-check. to me it's like if i saw a momma/dadda slapping their kid in the face. i'd say "i really dont think you should slap your kid in the face." the obvious response is: "It's none of your business! this kid is mine! it's 100% government gauranteed!" but is the kid 100% theirs? is the wall 100% anyone's? is anything 100% anyone's?

and not only that, but it's an art attack! no matter the definition, i think art could be said to have some value contained within it. trying to add value and life back into our mechanized lifestyles can't be too bad of a thing - unless a threat to the mechanization is a bad thing (which i do not think it is). good graffiti, and not jackass graffiti, can represent a lot. it adds colour, value, and life to a (very literally) bleached culture.


graffiti is about as subversive as not standing for the pledge of allegiance. which means it's about as awesome as it gets (when properly done).

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 11:59 pm
by Dose-V.I.K
jojo the circus monkey wrote:good question.

and tough...


i think graffiti can represent a mutuality. it goes beyond the borders of private property. i'm not sure i 100% believe in private property. (like in the sense that i dont believe in santa or morlocks. it's an abstraction just like any sort of logic.) the rest of this will be rushed out because i haven't had a chance to really get deep with it:

graffiti is a reminder that we share life. it's a slap in the face. "you own this wall, it's yours, it's 100% government guaranteed to you. but now there's art on it. how can this be?" it's a value-check. to me it's like if i saw a momma/dadda slapping their kid in the face. i'd say "i really dont think you should slap your kid in the face." the obvious response is: "It's none of your business! this kid is mine! it's 100% government gauranteed!" but is the kid 100% theirs? is the wall 100% anyone's? is anything 100% anyone's?

and not only that, but it's an art attack! no matter the definition, i think art could be said to have some value contained within it. trying to add value and life back into our mechanized lifestyles can't be too bad of a thing - unless a threat to the mechanization is a bad thing (which i do not think it is). good graffiti, and not jackass graffiti, can represent a lot. it adds colour, value, and life to a (very literally) bleached culture.


graffiti is about as subversive as not standing for the pledge of allegiance. which means it's about as awesome as it gets (when properly done).
WOW :D someone with a mind.very deep

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:10 am
by Al Quandt
God Artform???? It's kiddie paint! F*ckin stupid. I am glad I dont have any friends that do that sh*t. God id kick their paint can huffin asses. Hmm then I again I may be lying.

_al

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 2:36 am
by Dose-V.I.K
kimaliz wrote:God Artform???? It's kiddie paint! F*ckin stupid. I am glad I dont have any friends that do that sh*t. God id kick their paint can huffin asses. Hmm then I again I may be lying.

_al
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