Drummers?

Rhynohammer · Post by **Rhynohammer** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:10 pm

Why is it so hard to find drummers in fort wayne? Not only that ones that are dedicated and serious... Any ideas?

bassjones · Post by **bassjones** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:40 pm

They're all taken pretty quickly.

quantum_driveshaft · Post by **quantum_driveshaft** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:25 pm

that... or nobody asks.

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:44 pm

Yeah we are a rare breed in this town, bass players are hard to find sometimes too.

Rhynohammer · Post by **Rhynohammer** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:22 am

well if any of you know of someone please let me know.... have them contact me or e-mail soulfyre@soulfyre.com It would be greatly appreciated.... Thanks guys...

Ryne

P.S. yes bass players are hard to come by aswell

=^-..-^= · Post by **=^-..-^=** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:47 pm

A part of it is the drum kit. If I take my mando to a jam or a gig, I open my case, tune up, and boom! I'm playing along. If you take your guitar, it's your amp, your guitar, maybe a few effects, and you're reasdy to play with two trips to the car and a few minutes setup â€“ and you can pack up and be gone in a few minutes.

Now, drums is a differrent story. Tear them down wherever they are kept, 6 trips to the car to load them. Go to wherever, and try to get there first because you take 5-6 trips to the car and twenty minutes to setup even a small kit. If you wanna leave, you're in back of everything, so you gotta step over it all. 5-6 trips to the car to load it all back up when you are bone tired from playing, 5-6 more when you get home. Do I want to keep my drums at the practice space where I don't have access to them, or tear them down each time and take them home?

Anymore, I look at the above commitment, and ask if if I really want to do all that for music I'm not absolutely passionate about. Most of the time the answer is no â€“ even with my little 5 piece. Or, do I want to carry people that do not absolutely blow me away with their skill? Again, No, I'll stay home.

If your players, songs, and attitudes are good, you should have people salivating at the chance to play with you.

zenmandan · Post by **zenmandan** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:10 am

=^-..-^= wrote: ...Anymore, I look at the above commitment, and ask if if I really want to do all that for music I'm not absolutely passionate about.....Or, do I want to carry people that do not absolutely blow me away with their skill? Again, No, I'll stay home.

I agree. I'm not really sure I would have use that "carry people" statement, but I agree with the basic premise.

=^-..-^= · Post by **=^-..-^=** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:56 am

zenmandan wrote: I'm not really sure I would have use that "carry people" statement, but I agree with the basic premise.

Yeah, I guess that sounds kind of conceited; but I had a couple bad experiences. One guy talked up his band like they were the next Beatles. When I loaded up, got there, unloaded, and set up for the audition, the two members there looked kind of sheepish. "Oh, so and so isn't gonna be here today, and HE'S the one that knows how to play." What a frickin' waste of an afternoon! Another band I was in was reluctant to learn any more songs than the same tired list they had been doing for 5 years in one incarnation or another. They were unable to remember new stuff.

Again, if you are a guitar player in the above situations, you pick up the guitar in one hand, the amp in the other, and you leave. The drummer has a little more to move, so the decision to join or stay is a little harder.

sevesd93 · Post by **sevesd93** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:59 am

Actually, I think it is even simpler than that....

If I think your band sucks, I wont play drums for you.

Moving your drums around sucks, but I would never turn down an opportunity to play with a great band because I wasn't in the mood to haul around my gear. I knew what I was getting into when I started playing drums and that it meant being there early to setup, staying late to tear down, and playing your ass off in between. I absolutely love playing drums and hauling the gear around around is completely worth it when you play with top notch musicians.

=^-..-^= · Post by **=^-..-^=** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:06 am

Thank you. . .

We're both saying the same thing. . .you said it better!

sevesd93 · Post by **sevesd93** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:09 am

=^-..-^= wrote:Thank you. . .

We're both saying the same thing. . .you said it better!

Al Quandt · Post by **Al Quandt** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:48 pm

I completely agree with the both of ya too. Though when I was younger I would jump at the chance to play with anyone. I soon realized what you guys are talking about. I absolutely hate tearing down my drums, setting them up, and/or moving them. So I am not going to do all that sh*t just to go watch a couple of people learn how to play their instruments. Granted things are much better now that I gradually went from a 19 piece to a 4 piece in the last 2 years.

I would like to mention to the guy who started this post. I dont think anyone is saying you suck, we are just stating why a lot of drummers dont step up right away when asked for, because of the possibility that it may be a waste of time.

Plus odds are that most of Fort Wayne's good drummers are already taken by one or more bands/projects. It would take something personally mind blowing for me to commit to another bands as I do my own currently.

Oliver's Army · Post by **Oliver's Army** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:06 pm

Doesn't anyone take at least a moment to stop by a rehearsal for a song or two BEFORE lugging the crap around?

zenmandan · Post by **zenmandan** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:11 pm

I know that before I go to a rehearsal with a new group I make sure that I have some sort of demo, website, etc. that I can check out so I can get at least a basic idea of what they sound like. If it's a new project, I'll want to hear demos of the other members previous stuff.

sevesd93 · Post by **sevesd93** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:38 pm

I have either always had the band come to me if it was new or gone and seen a live show if it was an existing thing.

At least I can tell a band they suck and make them leave the house right away or leave the bar right away. When you have all your stuff and tell a band they suck, you have that awkward 30 minutes of silence it takes to load up your gear, and for some reason no one wants to help you carry it out.